the famous toyota recall......

[gary s]

eddie,

gee i was just about ot pack up an FJ cruiser for your collection, oh well :driving:

:bwahaha::haveabeer:

 

[H D]

An investigation was done. She was advised to bring suit against Toyota. I assume based on that advice that there was sufficient evidence that this was a fault of the vehicle, especially since the recommendation was not from a lawyer. I don't know the specifics so I won't make any up. I was in college at the time and didn't follow the incident play-by-play. Sorry to disappoint, but I don't have any more information you can call into question and pick apart piece by piece. If you would like, I can try to have my mother join the site and sit in for your questioning so you can defend the honor of your favorite brand. I doubt she has much interest in doing so, though.



Here's my opinion and I will not defend it with facts or reasoning:



TOYOTA MAKES UGLY VEHICLES AND I DON'T TRUST THEIR QUALITY!:cheeky:

 

[gary s]

hugh,



fully understand that this your OPINION.



"They make such works of art as the Yaris and Prius".

do you have any experience with these vehicles?

if not, your opinions are useless. just like caymen !

 

[Tom Schindler]

At least Caymen knows what a shift key is.





Tom

 

[H D]

My experience with those vehicles never gets beyond laughter.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

TJR says that referring to onesself in the third-person shows a big ego!



:banana:



TJR

 

[Gavin Allan]

I figure the the Scion box was a car made for blind people...:bwahaha:

 

[gary s]

"At least Caymen knows what a shift key is."

he also knows what a convertAble is :bwahaha:



"My experience with those vehicles never gets beyond laughter."

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"I figure the the Scion box was a car made for blind people..."

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[Kevin Lang]

That's not a Scion box in the picture :grin:



I thought the Scion box was made for kids, given the name...asymmetrical kids given the one reverse light on the rear bumper...but thinking back, I guess not as if Toyota was marketing to them, then Toyota would never sell enough cars to turn a buck as the number of youth (and even adults) who realize that Scion isn't a word Toyota made up is probably tiny.



It's the Prius that is made for blind people...for running them over as even now they are still criticized for being "silent death" to those who can't see them coming.



I despair, Toyota is taking over the fam--a new Camry & RAV4 added last year, and replacement RAV4s and Highlanders added before that. It's only a matter of time. Thankfully the kith & kin consider the Prius to be an affront to their personal pride, and the yaris/scion to be too laughably fugly to consider. But Gary, you still have "victory" as the gangrene of Toyota causes my American Car family to rot away.



:soap::soap:



EDIT:I find the worst thing about NASA having to vet Toyota's software is that NASA now has nothing better to do. NASA--National Automobile Safety Agency??

 

[Tom Schindler]

EDIT:I find the worst thing about NASA having to vet Toyota's software is that NASA now has nothing better to do. NASA--National Automobile Safety Agency??

NASA needs money to help finance a new Space Shuttle program.





Tom

 

[TrainTrac]

NASA needs money to help finance a new Space Shuttle program.

I thought NASA's primary mission was now "Muslim outreach"?:banghead:

 

[Thomas Rogers]

I thought MASA was all about keeping the brothers down?



...



Oh, wait...wrong thing.

 

[Kevin Lang]

I think NASA needs the money to get our astronauts into space. What was it the Russians were charging for us to hitch a ride on their shuttle? 50 million USD per astronaut?

I thought NASA's primary mission was now "Muslim outreach"?

Oh geez, you had to go and remind me of that, I'd forgotten it.



What credit does NASA even have for being an authority on Toyota's software? NASA isn't known as a leading software QA establishment, and I think they're largely forgotten by the American public. So the expectation is that people will trust an evaluation from NASA because NASA is "a government agency", despite their lack of credentials, moreso than say an independent & renown software company?



I'd be more inclined to trust Google than NASA on this. (And I'm no Google devotee)



I wouldn't be surprised to find that the core technology of the back-assward (then & now) ~30 year old Space Shuttle is actually less complex than that of the Toyota's drive-by-wire electronic setup.