Time for a new car

[Deleted deleted]

Sorry for the confusion Baron... I was talking about that fugly Freestyle wagon. I've seen one closeup... reminds me of the old Country Squire station wagons. Just needs some fake wood siding on it

 

[scott r]

ah, ok.

There's one of those fugly Freestyle wagons sitting at my local ford dealership. I was astounded that something so ugly would sell today. Of course they only have ONE, so maybe they don't expect it to sell either. I could never picture myself driving one of those. It's like a low-budget minivan or something.

 

[Fred]

The Freestyle reminds me of the old Dodge Colt (Vista?) turd.



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[scott r]

Actually, it does look quite a bit like that. Scary!

It was ugly enough the FIRST time!

 

[Gavin Allan]

Just let your wife get a new vulva if she liked her old one!

 

[Wes Davis]

What is the trade in value on an older vulva?

 

[Rafael Mahecha]

I'll sell/sale you my 01 x sprt, only 55k mi, kkm and ee sway, silverstars... cheap!

 

[Rafael Mahecha]

I have a 2001 LS and I run regular 87 octane gas in it all the time. Premium is just too expensive. I've had no problems with it, although maybe a slight loss in mpg.

hummm... I thought cars that required premium would suffer engine problems if fed with regular too often...



I heard it would produce an engine knock and slight power lost??? but if not... I guess that's what I'll be looking for soon, then.



what about the overall relability of the car, engine, accessories, etc... is it expensive to make fixes to it?...

 

[Chase Straw]

when you purchased your tv did you take into consideration where it was made ?

Actually i for one do if there is a similar item for a close price i will always buy american

 

[Deleted deleted]

I would stay away from the Lincoln LS. In the Hertz fleet, this is one of the most troublesome cars that spends the largest number of days idle in the repair bays.

 

[Nelson Atwell]

Chase, what American company still makes TVs? I know of none, though some Chinese-made TVs have American names stamped onto them.



Also, GM has been importing foreign vehicles and rebadging them with the Chevy (or Geo) markings for decades. Chrysler is German-owned. There is no truly American-made car. Even our beloved STs have a German engine and French transmission.



We can cry all day long about the US losing our lead in the global auto market, but it still won't change the facts.

 

[Gavin Allan]

Yeah, the only answer is for greedy unions to be busted up and workers to work in factories for $3.00 an hour.

 

[Nelson Atwell]

Hmmm...sounds like China.

 

[scott r]

French Transmission? No wonder the damn things shift so poorly from the factory!!! I shoulda known!



As for the regular vs premium gasoline debate. If your car manufacturer says that you need premium fuel, there is a reason for that. It's usually due to higher compression, supercharger or turbocharger. With a higher compression engine, it's occasionally ok to run regular gasoline, but the lower octane fuel COULD cause the engine to knock...which can cause alllllll kinds of damage. Same with a supercharged engine. I have the same "problem" with my supercharged trac. It requires at least 91 octane fuel. I'm sure it would RUN on 87, it might even run WELL on 87, but there's no way I'm going to take the chance of destroying my engine by running cheaper fuel. It's just not worth the risk. Now...if your engine maker/car manufacturer says that you can run regular fuel and you use premium, that might be a bit silly. You're not gaining anything since the engine is DESIGNED to run on regular fuel. You might think that you will get "better combusion"...but you won't. It's still going to do the same thing it's always done...burn fuel. I doubt that the oil companies mind one bit that you're paying for premium fuel though.

 

[TrainTrac]

We bought my wife a 2001 Lincoln LS last November with 34,000 miles on it. It was in great shape. It runs great, is fast as hell, and handles like a dream. When I drive it, it reminds me of my old '86 Mustang GT. As I said before, we've been running 87 octane in it for quite a while, and have had no problems. No knock, ping or anything like that. I think if you do some research, you'll find that the LS has been a good vehicle to own since it was introduced. Motor Trend rated it as the best American sedan until the Chrysler 300 was release.



On the other hand, I guess the LS is still the best American sedan. Wouldn't the 300 be considered an import since it's parent company is Deutschland-based Daimler-Chrylser?:lol:

 

[M B]

American or Foregin? I've always bought "Amercian" named vehicles. Two Chevys and two Fords. The two Chevy's always a problem. The two Fords...Ranger and ST, there's been something. So far nothing wrong with the Hyundai. It has a good warranty, perfect for the hubby, two step boys and I and a good price for my needs.

 

[John Mastrocco]

Mazda 3 or Mazda 6.

 

[Tom Schindler]

Even our beloved STs have a German engine and French transmission.

You forgot to add that though the engine is made in Germany and the tranny in France, an American company based in Dearborn, Michigan builds it. In case you don't know, the world headquarters of Ford Motor Company is in Dearborn, MI.





Tom

 

[Nelson Atwell]

Tom, I think you are trying to confuse me.



Ford pays French and German workers to build major components for a Ford, just as GM pays workers in their Daewoo plants in South Korea to build Chevys. Now tell me how is that better for the American workers, than Toyota paying Americans to build Toyotas in Georgetown, Kentucky? :unsure:

 

[Tom Schindler]

Ford owns the plan in Koeln, Germany and Bordeau, France. The employees are employed by Ford Motor Company. Some of the profits from those engines and tranny's stays in the USA because the company that builds them is an American company. The rest of the vehicle is built in the USA. The reason Ford builds the engine and tranny in Europe is because that is where they were built when those engines and trannys were designed for the cars there. Ford already had the plants setup to build them. I don't like it, but I know not only do Americans build my Trac, less the engine and tranny, the engine and tranny are built by the same company that builds the Trac.



I do everything I can to buy as American made as I can.



I guess it is how we look at things differently.





Tom