Very Intresting Archeological Find
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Kevin Lang
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Of course it hovered, everyone knows that all of our advanced technology comes from aliens. Tommy Lee Jones told us this, and he wouldn't lie to us. Why should VTOL be any different? Gosh! :bwahaha:
Just because you don't have proof that there were civilizations 12,000 years ago does not mean that there were not, which was the point of my discourse, after trying to lend support to Hugh's point that your assumption isn't the only one in town.
BTW 12,000 years ago science insists that Homo Sapiens were the dominant & only humans in town. As we're also homo sapiens, the minds of people 12,000 years ago were no more "feable" than those of modern man. :grin:
Just because you don't have proof that there were civilizations 12,000 years ago does not mean that there were not, which was the point of my discourse, after trying to lend support to Hugh's point that your assumption isn't the only one in town.
BTW 12,000 years ago science insists that Homo Sapiens were the dominant & only humans in town. As we're also homo sapiens, the minds of people 12,000 years ago were no more "feable" than those of modern man. :grin:
Bill Barber
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Now boys,the elder one wants yall to go take your pills with a warm glass of milk,get your blankys and sleep on this conundrum.
Tomorrow is another day,Good night all
Tomorrow is another day,Good night all
KL,
Why are you getting your panties in bunch??? Relax, It's all in fun and everyone here is just making jokes and having some fun...except perhaps you.
While you are so concerned that the homo sapiens of 12K years ago were so intelligent, remember that over 90% of all the knowledge man has aquired, was aquired since 1960....and that statement goes back about 20 years go.
And scientific evidence is what scientist go by....If they don't find evidence of man making steel 6K, 10K or even 12K years ago, we can only assume they did not know how to make steel. If we find evidence that they did have the knowledge to make steel, then I will agree that they did. Until then I am siding with the scientist who say that they did not have the knowledge to make steel 12K years ago. That does not mean I can't have some fun with the concept ....It's all just humor....But I guess you have not discovered that yet.:grin:
...Rich
Why are you getting your panties in bunch??? Relax, It's all in fun and everyone here is just making jokes and having some fun...except perhaps you.
While you are so concerned that the homo sapiens of 12K years ago were so intelligent, remember that over 90% of all the knowledge man has aquired, was aquired since 1960....and that statement goes back about 20 years go.
And scientific evidence is what scientist go by....If they don't find evidence of man making steel 6K, 10K or even 12K years ago, we can only assume they did not know how to make steel. If we find evidence that they did have the knowledge to make steel, then I will agree that they did. Until then I am siding with the scientist who say that they did not have the knowledge to make steel 12K years ago. That does not mean I can't have some fun with the concept ....It's all just humor....But I guess you have not discovered that yet.:grin:
...Rich
Kevin Lang
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Let me refer you to Hugh's earlier statement.
That's begging the question and an erroneous statement. We don't know what knowledge the ancients had, so it is a fallacy to claim that we have learned 90% of all that we know since 1960. Who knows what the ancients had stored in Alexandria when it was razed by the muslems? Who knows what further great unpublished mathematical works were lost to antiquity? Shoot, even relatively modern mathematicians such as Gauss had knowledge that was unpublished for political reasons, and while some of it has been rediscovered, an unknown amount is lost.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. With so many unknowns, how can we make a definitive statement quantifying knowledge? That's rhetorical, as we cannot.
Let us also not forget that there were some discoveries that would have been a death sentence if publicly proclaimed. Heresy has a long history of being severely punished, even in the most "advanced" societies.
KL,
Hugh's statement that ancient man may have discovered how to make steel but a "Cost/Benefit Analysis" showed it was too costly.... Since we don't have any evidence that ancient man knew how to make steel, it's stretching it too far to assume that they would have done a cost/benefit analysis...when we have no evidence that they knew about iron let alone steel. I took that as Hugh's attempt at humor...which I thought was kind of funny.
Everything anyone says is just speculation and even the scientist are proven wrong from time to time. Why don't we just assume that the ancient man had computer, cellphones, cars, planes and even traveled into space on stone-age rockets 12K years ago.
Even if we found steel tools in this ancient buried ruins, it would not prove that man made them....and the fact that they have not found a single tool used to make these huge monoliths is even stranger??
I make my assumptions based on some rudementary facts or based on some scientific archeological research. I do not make assumptions that I just dreamed up to fit the occasion...So unless you have documented evidence that man knew about or even created steel 12K years ago your assumptions are just your opinions and do not agree with the majority of scientific opinions
Did some highly intelligent civilization exist on earth 12K years ago? Perhaps, but I think that is what the scientists and archeologist examining this buried ancient structure are hoping to find answers to all these questions. If they eventually find that they indeed had steel tools and drove cars, and planes and perhaps built a Space Shuttle, I can accept that if that's what the evidence shows.
It may also be a link that aliens landed on earth and either built the structure, or directed man to build it, for some unknown purpose. The TV show Ancient Aliens concludes that aliens visited earth many times and they were responsible for the unexplained leaps in man'is intelligence...Again, that's just their opinion...but they have done a lot more research than you or I have.
As for the Statement about mankind aquiring 90% of our knowledge since 1960 is not my statement it was attributed to a statement made over 20 year ago by the late Dr Carl Sagen, but I cannot find any reference to it now.
I repeat...You all need to lighten up, all of this has been tongue-in-cheek except KL's remarks. I make a joke about someone's statement by making an even more obserd statement, and you guys go off the deep end and think I am picking on someone elses opinion rather than seeing the humor in it.
Nobody gives a rats ass what you think of my "Assumptions" any more that I care about yours. You are free to think that ancient man invented steel 12K years ago, and they had laptop computers and cellphones then too.....I don't care. I am also free to ridicule your assumptions or opinions as much as a want. If you don't like it, I don't care, just don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!
...Rich
Hugh's statement that ancient man may have discovered how to make steel but a "Cost/Benefit Analysis" showed it was too costly.... Since we don't have any evidence that ancient man knew how to make steel, it's stretching it too far to assume that they would have done a cost/benefit analysis...when we have no evidence that they knew about iron let alone steel. I took that as Hugh's attempt at humor...which I thought was kind of funny.
Everything anyone says is just speculation and even the scientist are proven wrong from time to time. Why don't we just assume that the ancient man had computer, cellphones, cars, planes and even traveled into space on stone-age rockets 12K years ago.
Even if we found steel tools in this ancient buried ruins, it would not prove that man made them....and the fact that they have not found a single tool used to make these huge monoliths is even stranger??
I make my assumptions based on some rudementary facts or based on some scientific archeological research. I do not make assumptions that I just dreamed up to fit the occasion...So unless you have documented evidence that man knew about or even created steel 12K years ago your assumptions are just your opinions and do not agree with the majority of scientific opinions
Did some highly intelligent civilization exist on earth 12K years ago? Perhaps, but I think that is what the scientists and archeologist examining this buried ancient structure are hoping to find answers to all these questions. If they eventually find that they indeed had steel tools and drove cars, and planes and perhaps built a Space Shuttle, I can accept that if that's what the evidence shows.
It may also be a link that aliens landed on earth and either built the structure, or directed man to build it, for some unknown purpose. The TV show Ancient Aliens concludes that aliens visited earth many times and they were responsible for the unexplained leaps in man'is intelligence...Again, that's just their opinion...but they have done a lot more research than you or I have.
As for the Statement about mankind aquiring 90% of our knowledge since 1960 is not my statement it was attributed to a statement made over 20 year ago by the late Dr Carl Sagen, but I cannot find any reference to it now.
I repeat...You all need to lighten up, all of this has been tongue-in-cheek except KL's remarks. I make a joke about someone's statement by making an even more obserd statement, and you guys go off the deep end and think I am picking on someone elses opinion rather than seeing the humor in it.
Nobody gives a rats ass what you think of my "Assumptions" any more that I care about yours. You are free to think that ancient man invented steel 12K years ago, and they had laptop computers and cellphones then too.....I don't care. I am also free to ridicule your assumptions or opinions as much as a want. If you don't like it, I don't care, just don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!
...Rich
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Bill Barber
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Richard L says we all have to:LIGHTEN UP:rofl:
