WeinerGate is over...

[Bud Williams]

anyone else glad weinergate is over?

anyone from New York that votes to re-elect this smug, idiot is a fool!

What a putz!



:worthless:



:bwahaha:

 

[Andy Chase]

I'm gonn miss some of the headlines that went along with it though.:bwahaha:

 

[Rick Kent]

Rangle, Pelosi, Reid,... what makes you think the voters care that he is a Dick?

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Who gives a crap?



My congressman can get favors from transgender working "gals" on the steps of the capital on their off hours SO LONG AS they still have time to pass good legislation in a timely manner that gets us to smaller, more taxpayer friendly government.



TJR

 

[Rick Kent]

TJR,



The issueI have with your argument is that these same elected officials have deomonstrated a complete lack of good judgement and a willingness to lie to those closest to them.



Any elected official who doesn't see the problem with sending dick pics to strangers on twitter is not who I want making laws that impact my life.



If he is wiling to lie to his wife, collegues in congress and staffers he has no bones about lying to his constituents.



As far as I am aware, none of these elected officials have shown the ability to get blown on the capitol steps and still function as a good elected official for the people.



As soon as one does I will say who gives a crap also.

 

[Kevin Lang]

My congressman can get favors from transgender working "gals" on the steps of the capital on their off hours SO LONG AS they still have time to pass good legislation in a timely manner that gets us to smaller, more taxpayer friendly government.

Smaller government is not achieved by passing legislation, that's impossible. :grin:



Repealing legislation is the way to go, but sadly the number of legislation passed has become the "benchmark" of a politician's worth. Like speeding tickets (or seizure laws) to evaluate police, making an aspect of the job a benchmark has resulted in a corruption of the original purpose of the action.



One of MD's representatives prides himself on that he has passed no legislation. I'd rather that than those who harp about all the bills that they've passed (especially as they've been horrendous bills). A representative's job is to represent his constituency, not pass laws. To do one does not mandate the other. At least, that was supposed to be the idea.



That aside, I agree that whatever our politicians do with their private money in their private time (though on private property, ie not the Capitol stairs) is their own business.



Of course, as far as I'm aware,

As far as I am aware, none of these elected officials have shown the ability to get blown on the capitol steps and still function as a good elected official for the people.

That statement is true.

 

[Bill V]

fkent, he's not a "Dick"--that's Cheney.



Nor is he a "Bohner".



He's a "Weiner". Get it straight.



:banana::bwahaha::banana::bwahaha::banana:

 

[Richard L]

I think he needs to resign. Even if he did not violate any laws, he certainly betrayed the peoples trust in his actions which are unbecoming of any elected official. He was not elected to office because anyone thought they wanted to see explicit photos of him on FaceBook, etc.



Common sense tells me that is not normal behavior I should expect from a public official. His lies and refusal to resign just shows his contempt and arrogance.



...Rich

 

[Kevin Lang]

Common sense tells me that is not normal behavior I should expect from a public official.

Senator Craig, President Clinton, John Edwards, Governor Mark Sanford, etc would beg to disagree.

 

[Thomas Rogers]

Repression of urges doesn't seem to work for most folks... Just creates guilt, shame and lying.



TJR

 

[Johnny O]

He won't resign and will be reelected. When you're a Democrat, it's different.

News is reporting that his wife is pregnant. She ain't a looker either.

 

[Gary DiPietroSr]

Newsbreak: Weiner comes clean and pulls out. (Couldn't help myself.)

 

[Richard L]

re: WeinerGate is over...

Don't we all wish that was true :grin: This will go on for months. Women will continue to come out of the woodwork claiming Weiner sent them explicit photos, etc.



The most disturbing part about all of this, is that over 50% of the constituants in his district say he should not resign even though they do not approve of his behavior? Wow, talk about Liberals!!



I think we need to have some kind of Code of Conduct or Code of Ethics for our politicians that is not admnistered by themselves. I think some Judicial branch like the Supreme Court should determine if there were ethics violations committed and have the authority to impeach any politiian and throw him out of office, and bar him from holding any elected office.



...Rich

 

[H D]

I think we need to have some kind of Code of Conduct or Code of Ethics for our politicians that is not admnistered by themselves. I think some Judicial branch like the Supreme Court should determine if there were ethics violations committed and have the authority to impeach any politiian and throw him out of office, and bar him from holding any elected office.

Only because I just took an ethics class this spring and came across some interesting facts will I disagree with this. Prior to the class, I would have probably agreed.



Apparently, the "most ethical" public employees are those in countries where ethics laws are fewest. I don't remember who does the index or exactly how it is determined but I do remember being impressed by the research and their methods. Thailand, I think, is considered to have the most ethical public servants. There is only one written law concerning ethical situations and it is actually upheld by their peers. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd provide the information but anyone interested or disbelieving can look it up just as well as I. Maybe I'll do it later.



I think it's just a cultural thing. America has bred a culture of hedonism and individuality to the point that ethics is, in effect, synonymous with self-actualization and harbors no concern for societal ethical norms. It's actually rude and pompous to extend your moral code on someone else in America. And for that, I say let Weiner be. If he hasn't broken a law, let the next election decide his fate. If he is reelected, it's only because he reflects the morals of his constituents. There is nothing more American than that. Just look at how fiscally and morally bankrupt California is; don't blame the politicians, blame the citizens.

 

[Richard L]

Hugh,

Apparently, the "most ethical" public employees are those in countries where ethics laws are fewest.

I can agree with that conclusion because often times the few laws about ethics are very vague and carry extreme penalties.



I good example might be the Military laws regarding "Conduct Unbecoming" for officers, NCO's and even Enlisted members. Almost anything fits into that category and is often a secondary charge added on to any crime or misconduct by a military member, or can even be the sole charge when no other laws apply.



If Weiner was in the military, he may not have violated any military laws, but he would probably come up on charges for Conduct Unbecoming any rank in the military! I think that something similar should be applied to our politicians.



This is not rocket science, it's just common sense and moral ethics that most people learn before they reach the age of 12 years old. If our politicians cannot figure that out, they certainly don't need to be holding such high positions of public trust.



...Rich

 

[H D]

I'd support such codes of conduct.

 

[Richard L]

Hugh,

It's not the conduct or ethic laws or lack of them, it's that Congress and the Senate, etc police their own members....and their track record stinks and they have very little power to do anything even if they agree that their was a violation of ethics. They cannot fire or impeach the member. I want some judicial process that would allow all the Weiners holding elected offices to be thrown out of office...of course after a hearing and evidence is presented.



If cCoongress is left to police their own members nothing will get done since most know that if they are caught doing something unethical, they don't want anybody coming down hard on them.



...Rich

 

[Les]

If cCoongress is left to police their own members nothing will get done since most know that if they are caught doing something unethical, they don't want anybody coming down hard on them.

Sort of like the AMA and doctors.

 

[H D]

...most know that if they are caught doing something unethical, they don't want anybody coming down hard on them.

Those that always strive to make ethical decisions should not have that concern. The whole lot must be rotten.

 

[Richard L]

Sort of like the AMA and doctors

Doctors, Lawyers, politicians?....I think it is indicitive of any group that claims to self-police the ethics of their members. In many cases they can't do much, so they don't do much. The real difference is that politicians are elected to public office to represent the constituants in their districts. They should not be accorded any special treatment and their morals and ethics should never come into question.



How many times a year do we hear of politicians receiving special gifts or favors from a lobbyist, or they have not paid their taxes, lied about their military careers, involved in other forms of fraud and bribery, as well as drug and sex scandals.



When that happens to us, we are fired, go to jail or pay fines. When it happens to politicians, the worse that happeneds to them is they get censured....Ooo that sounds scary.



The American public needs to take back our country from the politicians, and let them know with no confusion that we will not tolerate the "Status Quo" and their arrogance that they are special and thumbing their noses at the public who elected them.



...Rich