WeinerGate is over...

[Mark K 2]

He's quitting.

 

[TrainTrac]

Yep, Weiner's pulling out! :bwahaha:

 

[Richard L]

Yep, I just saw on the news that Weiner has decided to resign from Congress. I suspect that in the next few months we will be hearing about his pending divorce.



I thought he was taking a leave of absence from Congress so that he could get some help with his problem??? I guess he found out that there is no cure for "Stupid"...it's terminal :bwahaha:



...Rich

 

[Richard L]

 

[Mark K 2]

And David Vitter is still a senator.

 

[Les]

And David Vitter is still a senator.

In 2007, news broke that Vitters phone number had turned up in the records of a Washington-area escort service authorities said was a front for prostitution. After refusing to answer questions for a week, Vitter emerged from seclusion with his wife to admit to a serious sin and to apologize for his actions. Vitter described his transgressions as a private family matter, justifying any disclosure of his misdeeds.



Vitters steadfast refusal to utter an additional word is one reason he remains in office today.



Weiner and the Democratic leadership failed to learn from Vitter. Weiner lied before coming clean. When first caught, he could have admitted mistakes, refused to answer questions, disappeared for a while, and allowed the incident to die down. Eighteen months later, New York voters could have determined whether his transgressions were forgivable.

 

[Richard L]

Les,

I think Vitter's situation was very different.



While I certainly don't condone his actions, it was a very private affair that was between him and his wfe and only them...it was not for public consuption. Also, he did not lie about it, he refused to answer any questions about the incident, but he never lied.



Weiner, on the other hand was exposing himself to strangers on the internet, which think in most people's eyes is a perverted act and goes several levels above just having an affair with a prostitute. Also, when confronted with he evidence, Weiner told lie after lie to cover it up and that shows that he makes very poor decisions and has no moral backbone.



Doing something wrong and admitting it shows there is some redeeming character there, but to lie about it for a week while women are coming out of the woodwork claiming they also got pic's of Weiner's weiner...and then be forced to admit that not only is he a pervert, but to demonstrate to the world that he is a pathological liar. Then to show his shameless arrogance, he refused to resign his position in Congress?? I don't know which is worse.:angry:



...Rich

 

[Les]

Rich, I agree with you. I was pointing out the facts to Mark. It's not always "what" you do, but how you handle it when caught.

 

[H D]

They are both moral failings, IMO. Vitters handled it better but I see little difference in the morality of both Weiner and Vitters. They're both sexual deviants, IMO.



On the other hand, I personally hold honesty as the highest moral characteristic, so I guess Vitters wins the "most moral of sleazy Congressmen" contest in this comparison.

 

[Bud Williams]

I guess it depends on what "is" is...:bwahaha:

 

[Richard L]

Hugh,

I agree with you that both have some problems making moral decisions. I think Vitters deserves some credit for admitting his past discresions, without making lies or excuses.



Also if you consider that a good portion of married men in the US have been unfaithful to their wives and got themselves involved in sexual affairs with other women would indicate that Vitters is not alone. He just got caught and others have not...yet. The fact that it was a prostitute does not matter and we never were told if this was a one time meeting, or if it had been going on for some time???



I feel that cheating on your wife is bad enough, but does fall into the realm of the American Norm. The same cannot be said for people who expose themselves on the internet, or send unsolicited explicit photos to essentially strangers!!



Not making any excuses for Vitters, but certainly Weiner's actions goes way beyond acceptable behavior for any public official. That's why I don't think they should be compared as similar moral indiscressions.



...Rich