geez, half the fun is to watch these sales dudes squirm when you know more than they do about the vehicles, programs, rebates, options, etc... i always go to the 'green' sales dude... i don't abuse them, but i do enough research and i enter the dealership knowing what i am going to spend... we just leased a 2007 milan I4 auto, sign and drive, tax and everything rolled in, drive it home for under 250/mo, 15k /year... sure gets better milage than the trac....:lol: